@stickmandiaries Not with me it isn’t; it’s my favourite, too. Absolutely love it. I think Momentary Lapse of Reason is my second favourite, though I’ll never forget when my brother put it on a cassette for me. There I was, totally chilled, only he filled the tape up with Marillion. Bit of a change of pace!!
@vanessa I can pretty much listen to anything floyd but dunno what it is about DB. Back in the day I probably would have been listening to clutching at straws on repeat too 😀 but maybe one shouldn’t admit lol..
@stickmandiaries S’ok, I quite liked Marillion, but going from Momentary to Lavender was a bit jarring. So much great music around then – but I expect everyone says that about their era.
@willtmonroe no doubt that Piper sits in a world of its own .. I used to take delight playing tracks from it for people who used to proclaim ‘I don’t like Pink Floyd and all that weird stuff”
… of course in I can see people today shaking heads … questioning ‘weird’ ,,, but back then children .. oh back then … decidedly so.
Related but seperate question …
Anyone seen nick mason and his new band on tour .. breathing life into the syd barret days / first 2 albums)
Whilst on the topic of vintage Floyd … here’s a little something that I rediscovered as I am building out my new ‘sounds site’ …. and no, sorry, it isn’t undiscovered vintage Floyd tracks .. just 10 minutes of fun – kind of like a podcast really.
@JohnPhilpin Nice. I like the site, too. I may be told to wash my mouth out, but I really don’t like The Beatles. I like a lot of the songs, but not their performances. Maybe it’s one of those “you had to be there” things – and I’m just about too young.
@vanessa I would argue that ‘if you were there’ chances are that you couldn’t hear anything!
To me I would have the Beatles over the Stones any day – but still not a band I go back to a lot … as I think I said … they are all just there in me
But there are few bands in the history of music that I think shaped what was going on and are remembered that way … eg – something like sgt peppers today still holds as music – but at the time was so revolutionary that it stood out in other ways, so the context makes it even more important. Just check out billboard and / or NME for what other albums and musicians were doing at exactly the same time … and it all falls into place.
@JohnPhilpin I believe so… And I guess I would also pick them over the Stones. I don’t get the cult status of either group though. That said, The Beatles certainly marked a shift in musical direction in their day. I play a lot of Beatles songs and the writing is outstanding, with some truly lovely harmonies.
@JohnPhilpin Piper was a revelation to me. I thought I knew Pink Floyd but that was another band altogether. At least that’s how I heard it. And it led to an obsession with Opel for years. Still love those tunes, Wined and Dined, etc.
I’d never heard of Nick Mason. I’ll have to check that out!
@JohnPhilpin I just listened to your microcast and fascinated to hear that The Beatles were in same studio as Floyd. I too have never understood The Rolling Stones appeal and I would say Beatles wouldn’t be in my desert island disks. I have tried the early floyd stuff but just don’t click with it like the more modern albums.
@stickmandiaries yes – I would say piper and saucer are a pair, ummagumma stands on its own , then atom heart and meddle are different again – that’s the fun – etc … there isn’t ‘one floyd’ … and I like that … to me, excellent that you know others, even better that you tried, and everyone should like what they like and we shouldn’t get too special about which is best …. there is absolutely NO answer to that.
@willtmonroe hopefully you have also enjoyed Madcap and Barrett ?
I have my eye on the tour but not any tickets yet …. but definitely would want to hear modern high production live versions of those tracks … so radical and varied.
@JohnPhilpin I have to admit I was/am not particularly into music probably due to an unrelenting unpalatable (to me) parental choices. I did go through a phase of trying to be down with the cool kids but thankfully it didn’t last. I am going to however go back and relisten to the early stuff as with time and age appreciations change, case in point I found out I really liked Steve Riech and John Adams, who knew! And yes there is no right way to like music.
@stickmandiaries wow … that’s a very specific ‘branch of music’ … I have a couple of Terry Riley albums in my vinyl collection … but actually never been down that route too much / though if I was drawing a music family tree I would personally drop in bands like kraftwerk and tangerine dream, not to mention Eno as minimalist influenced.
@JohnPhilpin yes I have a somewhat eclectic taste in music, partly moulded by listening to the radio for what seems like a millennia. I particularly like listening to minimal stuff if I am trying to write 🙂 Now you mention musical family tress there was an excellent series on BBC long time ago and I think it would be an interesting experiment to explore ones own tree. And I had forgotten about Tangerine Dream!
@stickmandiaries I have often thought about mine … and how it came to be I lived in a family that loved classical – but not heavy, opera likewise, jazz and those singers like the rat pack etc … no folk music, no blues per se and no pop .. at least ‘my’ pop … my main thread of music emerges from something I call English Progressive’ … I qualify because I am not big into Rush and Tool .., who are often thrown into the broader progressive bucket … and I think what attracts me to that is often little vocals .. not a big vocal person, layered soundscapes, complexity that actually emerges from simplicity …. and from those foundations I then move out to other places based on core involvement of the people I already was listening to … back in the day I was also heavy into the folk world – which was a great place for musical connections … take a look at Pete frame’s Rick family trees one day and follow someone like Fairpory Convention
@JohnPhilpin my upbringing was also a mixture of classical and jazz both of which I hated at the time and making my musical tastes very restricted, I had very Conservative tastes. I rebelled against all of this via the medium of the likes of AC/DC, Zep, Black Sabbath but found through my first girlfriend a much more diverse world of music including pink floyd, I can’t remember how I didn’t know about them till then 🙂 since that time I went through a faze of prog, electronica, and dance also because the lack of words but I’m now trying to mix it all up and not get stuck in one groove. Which reminds me I found my vinyl Tubular Bells the other day.. thanks for the link I’ll investigate later
@JohnPhilpin I think I have. But honestly nothing ever really moved me like the songs on Opel. But Piper, Saucer, and Opel kept showing up over and over again in some of the albums I enjoy.
By the way, the Sounds website is really neat, John.
@vanessa it might be controversial but Divison 🔔 is my fav 🙂
@stickmandiaries Not with me it isn’t; it’s my favourite, too. Absolutely love it. I think Momentary Lapse of Reason is my second favourite, though I’ll never forget when my brother put it on a cassette for me. There I was, totally chilled, only he filled the tape up with Marillion. Bit of a change of pace!!
@stickmandiaries @vanessa
Atom Heart Mother
@vanessa I can pretty much listen to anything floyd but dunno what it is about DB. Back in the day I probably would have been listening to clutching at straws on repeat too 😀 but maybe one shouldn’t admit lol..
@stickmandiaries S’ok, I quite liked Marillion, but going from Momentary to Lavender was a bit jarring. So much great music around then – but I expect everyone says that about their era.
@JohnPhilpin @stickmandiaries Not one I know! I ought to explore earlier stuff of theirs. I don’t think I’ve heard anything pre- Dark Side.
@JohnPhilpin I still like Piper at the Gates of Dawn. 😀
@willtmonroe no doubt that Piper sits in a world of its own .. I used to take delight playing tracks from it for people who used to proclaim ‘I don’t like Pink Floyd and all that weird stuff”
… of course in I can see people today shaking heads … questioning ‘weird’ ,,, but back then children .. oh back then … decidedly so.
Related but seperate question …
Anyone seen nick mason and his new band on tour .. breathing life into the syd barret days / first 2 albums)
@vanessa then you should ….
@vanessa @willtmonroe @stickmandiaries
Whilst on the topic of vintage Floyd … here’s a little something that I rediscovered as I am building out my new ‘sounds site’ …. and no, sorry, it isn’t undiscovered vintage Floyd tracks .. just 10 minutes of fun – kind of like a podcast really.
@willtmonroe the old done new
// @stickmandiaries @vanessa
@JohnPhilpin Nice. I like the site, too. I may be told to wash my mouth out, but I really don’t like The Beatles. I like a lot of the songs, but not their performances. Maybe it’s one of those “you had to be there” things – and I’m just about too young.
@vanessa I would argue that ‘if you were there’ chances are that you couldn’t hear anything!
To me I would have the Beatles over the Stones any day – but still not a band I go back to a lot … as I think I said … they are all just there in me
But there are few bands in the history of music that I think shaped what was going on and are remembered that way … eg – something like sgt peppers today still holds as music – but at the time was so revolutionary that it stood out in other ways, so the context makes it even more important. Just check out billboard and / or NME for what other albums and musicians were doing at exactly the same time … and it all falls into place.
@JohnPhilpin I believe so… And I guess I would also pick them over the Stones. I don’t get the cult status of either group though. That said, The Beatles certainly marked a shift in musical direction in their day. I play a lot of Beatles songs and the writing is outstanding, with some truly lovely harmonies.
@JohnPhilpin Piper was a revelation to me. I thought I knew Pink Floyd but that was another band altogether. At least that’s how I heard it. And it led to an obsession with Opel for years. Still love those tunes, Wined and Dined, etc.
I’d never heard of Nick Mason. I’ll have to check that out!
@JohnPhilpin I just listened to your microcast and fascinated to hear that The Beatles were in same studio as Floyd. I too have never understood The Rolling Stones appeal and I would say Beatles wouldn’t be in my desert island disks. I have tried the early floyd stuff but just don’t click with it like the more modern albums.
@stickmandiaries yes – I would say piper and saucer are a pair, ummagumma stands on its own , then atom heart and meddle are different again – that’s the fun – etc … there isn’t ‘one floyd’ … and I like that … to me, excellent that you know others, even better that you tried, and everyone should like what they like and we shouldn’t get too special about which is best …. there is absolutely NO answer to that.
Thanks for listening to the Randall interview.
@willtmonroe hopefully you have also enjoyed Madcap and Barrett ?
I have my eye on the tour but not any tickets yet …. but definitely would want to hear modern high production live versions of those tracks … so radical and varied.
@JohnPhilpin I have to admit I was/am not particularly into music probably due to an unrelenting unpalatable (to me) parental choices. I did go through a phase of trying to be down with the cool kids but thankfully it didn’t last. I am going to however go back and relisten to the early stuff as with time and age appreciations change, case in point I found out I really liked Steve Riech and John Adams, who knew! And yes there is no right way to like music.
@stickmandiaries wow … that’s a very specific ‘branch of music’ … I have a couple of Terry Riley albums in my vinyl collection … but actually never been down that route too much / though if I was drawing a music family tree I would personally drop in bands like kraftwerk and tangerine dream, not to mention Eno as minimalist influenced.
@JohnPhilpin yes I have a somewhat eclectic taste in music, partly moulded by listening to the radio for what seems like a millennia. I particularly like listening to minimal stuff if I am trying to write 🙂 Now you mention musical family tress there was an excellent series on BBC long time ago and I think it would be an interesting experiment to explore ones own tree. And I had forgotten about Tangerine Dream!
@stickmandiaries I have often thought about mine … and how it came to be I lived in a family that loved classical – but not heavy, opera likewise, jazz and those singers like the rat pack etc … no folk music, no blues per se and no pop .. at least ‘my’ pop … my main thread of music emerges from something I call English Progressive’ … I qualify because I am not big into Rush and Tool .., who are often thrown into the broader progressive bucket … and I think what attracts me to that is often little vocals .. not a big vocal person, layered soundscapes, complexity that actually emerges from simplicity …. and from those foundations I then move out to other places based on core involvement of the people I already was listening to … back in the day I was also heavy into the folk world – which was a great place for musical connections … take a look at Pete frame’s Rick family trees one day and follow someone like Fairpory Convention
@JohnPhilpin my upbringing was also a mixture of classical and jazz both of which I hated at the time and making my musical tastes very restricted, I had very Conservative tastes. I rebelled against all of this via the medium of the likes of AC/DC, Zep, Black Sabbath but found through my first girlfriend a much more diverse world of music including pink floyd, I can’t remember how I didn’t know about them till then 🙂 since that time I went through a faze of prog, electronica, and dance also because the lack of words but I’m now trying to mix it all up and not get stuck in one groove. Which reminds me I found my vinyl Tubular Bells the other day.. thanks for the link I’ll investigate later
@JohnPhilpin I think I have. But honestly nothing ever really moved me like the songs on Opel. But Piper, Saucer, and Opel kept showing up over and over again in some of the albums I enjoy.
By the way, the Sounds website is really neat, John.